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@wayfaerer  - Dec. 30, 2011, 3:56 p.m.

okay, now i need an opinion.

skyrim? is it worth my money to buy? im big on this style of game, and im a bethesda fan.

the thing is, ive recently takin to getting into FPS games like CoD and killzone (always loved killzone, but i digress), thus i was thinking about getting battlefield 3, fuck MW3, but i really dont know which way to go with this.

sure skyrim is something i damn well know id enjoy, but ive heard its pretty buggy, and ive had enough of over-bugged games; but does it minus from the gameplay?

also, how long is it? im assuming its huge with many hours of gameplay, but is it redundant? repetitive?

sure FPS games are at times, but remember, BF3 isnt a war GAME, its a war SIMULATOR, which is MUCH more intriguing to me.

HELP!!??

@auriplane  - Dec. 31, 2011, 12:06 a.m.

Parhelion, at least you don't have to drag the mouse across the screen to swing your weapon anymore XD

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@karathrow  - Dec. 31, 2011, 12:15 a.m.

Parhelion said

It surprises me that Bethesda still rolls with the same unsatisfying combat system after all these years. They could take their cue from Condemned, Dark Messiah, or even Demon's Souls. Once they revamp the combat, which is a huge part of the series regardless of all the exploration and quests, an Elder Scrolls game might become my GOTY.

So I'd say get Skyrim if you like the feel of swinging at potato sacks with the depth perception of a rock. That, at least for me, spoils the game.

I would say they've made strides considering you used to not even "hit" someone if you actually hit someone because hit/miss was controlled by hidden dice rolls instead of your actual aim.

Also condemned doesn't really have any other elements to manage other than combat, and the world isn't nearly as vast or nonlinear.

I agree their combat could be better, but considering the scope of the game its understandable.

As for the bugs, again I think any game with this much content in it is going to have bugs. That's the price you pay for being offered so much choice and such a large world. I wouldn't say they don't test the game, it's more how much can they really test these types of games. Especially now that they can more or less cop out to patches and such with consoles being online now.

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@kage25130  - Dec. 31, 2011, 12:54 a.m.

natenmn said

PERSONALLLLL COMPUTAAAAAAAAAAA!!!


Get one along with Skyrim.

Skyrim is probably one of my favorite games now despite it coming out so recently and having a large amount of potentially game-breaking bugs. Some parts of it aren't as great as the past Elder Scrolls games, but overall the game is much more engrossing and engaging (especially over Oblivion). I don't think Bethesda deserves any awards for "studio of the year" or any bullshit like that since they sent out the game without properly testing (like everything else they touch). However, I'd still say that it is my GOTY.

I only really recommend this for PC, as mods will carry it into a whole different experience in the future. Play the game vanilla now, then load it up six months later with 309 mods for a totally fresh play. This is the way it was with Oblivion and Morrowind. Considering there are already hundreds of mods (maybe in the thousands), I expect this to be the case with Skyrim, as well... especially once the official creation kit becomes available.

Also, due to the fact that the game is buggy, the PC version trumps simply because you can use the in-game console to type commands. You'll be able to eliminate stuck items from your inventory, stuck quests in your log, disable clones of characters that you see, etc. In addition, there are some better performance mods that came out recently that increase performance by up to 40% (which is about what I got). If you don't have the best PC, you can still get some good performance.

Morrowind was SO much better for pc

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@natenmn  - Dec. 31, 2011, 3:14 a.m.

kage25130 said

Morrowind was SO much better for pc

Yeah PC is the way to go for Bethesda games. Unfortunately, though, it is readily apparent that Bethesda made Skyrim for Xbox 360 with both the PS3 and PC versions being after thought cash-ins. Interface/UI, mouse movement, optimization issues, etc. point to this for the PC version. Luckily there is a rabid modding community for PC.

Modders should have gotten "studio of the year" in place of Bethesda.

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@karathrow  - Dec. 31, 2011, 4:41 a.m.

natenmn said

kage25130 said
Morrowind was SO much better for pc

Yeah PC is the way to go for Bethesda games. Unfortunately, though, it is readily apparent that Bethesda made Skyrim for Xbox 360 with both the PS3 and PC versions being after thought cash-ins. Interface/UI, mouse movement, optimization issues, etc. point to this for the PC version. Luckily there is a rabid modding community for PC.

Modders should have gotten "studio of the year" in place of Bethesda.

Fucking truth. You can't even click the goddamn menu buttons. What is that shit?

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