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@Giogiogio4  - April 17, 2012, 4:16 a.m.

So what are your thoughts on all the rumors of nextgen gaming having Bans on used games, No backwards compatibility and so forth?

I don't understand the whole Ban against used games. It's a BS argument in my book. Devs are paid plenty. Most people are being mislead in general when it comes to that topic.

Whats a used game? When a gamer trades in 2 old games for a new one the Gamer is Taking a Loan from the game store ( gamestop ). And guess what? It's Gamestop paying Devs for their new games. And when someone Buys a used game they are simply paying gamestop back. And well over 50% of the time none of those used games sell. So gamestop loses money. Look at all the old Ps2,Gamecube games those places have. Thousands of games that wont ever be sold, yet they gave all those gamers the money to buy new games. If anything Gamestop is basically giving Devs cash in hopes someone will pay them back.

@musenji - April 19, 2012, 6:50 a.m.

Wait, so you didn't have a receipt either? Correct me if I'm wrong:

This is NORMAL. For any establishment. You buy something, pretty much anywhere; you want to return it; you need the receipt--period.

[edit] I was responding to juja - Houston, if yours had a Gamestop sticker, I guess that's a judgment call? I dunno. I still would expect to have to have a receipt. It's just standard.

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@iamHoustonian - April 19, 2012, 7:07 a.m.

Nope, no receipt. My aunt didn't keep it.

This return story is particular to GAMESTOP because it had a big yellow sticker saying GAMESTOP $49.99. It's not like they couldn't resale it for exactly that price. And they said it "wouldn't" scan but I think they're full of caca.

So, yeah... I still think gamestop blows enormous scrotums with 3 testicles in them.

"Don't act like I didn't eat that Donut, I got the documentation right here." Mitch Hedberg Hahaha

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@musenji - April 19, 2012, 7:14 a.m.

No, I meant Juja, but apparently I was drunk and somehow missed him saying he had the receipt. I strongly remember that not being said, which means I must be REALLY drunk.

You do not have the documentation. It's at home. In the file. Under "D". For "Donut".

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@iamHoustonian - April 19, 2012, 7:19 a.m.

Haha I'm feelin' the effects of some Jameson myself :-)

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@musenji - April 19, 2012, 11:19 a.m.

Aw, after seeing my last comment combined with your avatar, I just had to make this:



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@iamHoustonian - April 21, 2012, 5:41 p.m.

Haha Niiiice! Jedi Mind-Mitch

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@surreal - April 21, 2012, 6:37 p.m.

I don't know why people get their panties all tangled over gamestop.

Every time they've remotely acted like dicks, I simply call them out then make a scene. That shit's fun.

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@wayfaerer - April 25, 2012, 6:08 p.m.

Jacob31593 said

you guys dont understand what hes saying there are still plenty of fully functional atari and nes systems out there, but by now all playstation 1 consoles are broken

my PSX as well as PSone are both still runnin strong as ever; my old ps2, not the slim, crapped out, and my slim crapped out too actually now that i recall, but i ended up fixing it. ive actually had far more issues with my prior ps3 than any other gaming console; was forced to go out and buy new.

also i agree with your earlier comment on pc gaming; thats a trend that will never die, and i think thats awesome, even though i never really got into pc gaming (except age of empires and a little bit of halo).

also, on the topic of rumors for next gen, apparently the creative team for the new WiiU, or whatever the fuck theyre gonna call it, was interviewed about the specs of the new system: when asked how it will compare with ps3 and xbox 360, the developers stated that when it is released, it will be approximately "on par" with the current consoles... umm, okay, so by that time ps4 and the next xbox (720?) will be released, and the WiiU (?) will be on par with the prior forms of those respective consoles. i think nintendo finally shit the bed; their gonna effectively bankrupt themselves for releasing an obsolete and shitty new system (apparently the controller is going to be a tablet... some will like it, sure they will, but not i). i see little to no future for nintendo as a console developer; they should just say fuck it and develop games, no more systems, unless they keep making handhelds (even though the 3DS KINDA flopped).

also, apparently steam is going to be making a system; im excited to see what that might be all about.

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@wayfaerer - April 25, 2012, 6:12 p.m.

also, mitch hedberg is a fucking genius

"when i have my own apartment, ill like play my music real loud; then ill mind fuck the guy banging on my wall tellin me to turn it down, ill say: 'go around!'... 'i dunno what you got on that side, but over here, i got nothin.'"

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@Giogiogio4 - April 25, 2012, 9:19 p.m.

wayfaerer said

Jacob31593 said
you guys dont understand what hes saying there are still plenty of fully functional atari and nes systems out there, but by now all playstation 1 consoles are broken

my PSX as well as PSone are both still runnin strong as ever; my old ps2, not the slim, crapped out, and my slim crapped out too actually now that i recall, but i ended up fixing it. ive actually had far more issues with my prior ps3 than any other gaming console; was forced to go out and buy new.

also i agree with your earlier comment on pc gaming; thats a trend that will never die, and i think thats awesome, even though i never really got into pc gaming (except age of empires and a little bit of halo).

also, on the topic of rumors for next gen, apparently the creative team for the new WiiU, or whatever the fuck theyre gonna call it, was interviewed about the specs of the new system: when asked how it will compare with ps3 and xbox 360, the developers stated that when it is released, it will be approximately "on par" with the current consoles... umm, okay, so by that time ps4 and the next xbox (720?) will be released, and the WiiU (?) will be on par with the prior forms of those respective consoles. i think nintendo finally shit the bed; their gonna effectively bankrupt themselves for releasing an obsolete and shitty new system (apparently the controller is going to be a tablet... some will like it, sure they will, but not i). i see little to no future for nintendo as a console developer; they should just say fuck it and develop games, no more systems, unless they keep making handhelds (even though the 3DS KINDA flopped).

also, apparently steam is going to be making a system; im excited to see what that might be all about.

Dude, It's Nintendo.

All the stuff they release is out of date, Cheaply made with no support. And guess what? people eat them up. Nintendo releases the same games over and over and over again and cash in.

Look at the 3DS compared to the Vita. The Vita is a powerhouse. Something we all wanted forever in a handheld but it's selling horribly compared to the 3DS. The only thing going for that handheld is the "3D" and that's about it. Nintendo's strength is to market to children.

  1. make under powered system.

  2. Rehash the same Mario games on each system.

  3. Collect millions of dollars.

This is nothing new, Look at the Wii, The thing is dead for the most part and had almost no games yet it sold Millions and allowed Nintendo to release a new console that will again bring in millions while being behind in ever category possible.

It's business.

Look at the Concord ( the airplane ).

People complained that they wanted a faster way to travel over see.

So this plane is made turning a 8+ hour flight into 2 hours.

People didn't want to pay for the quality and now it's gone.

People say they want an awesome system and then Bitch when it comes time to pay for it. People complained about the Vita having a 32 GB memorycard the size of a fingernail costing 100 bucks, while Apple charges 100+ for a 15 GB difference in their Ipods. So apple is allowed to charge 100 bucks for 15 gbs but sony can't charge 100 bucks for 32gbs.

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@wayfaerer - April 25, 2012, 10:01 p.m.

youre absolutely right gio; i cant say i was shocked at what nintendo "plans" to do for the next system, but i was taken aback a bit, considering nintendo is one of the mega corporations in gaming, at least they used to be. given im playing through ocarina of time as we speak, really puts their fall from grace into perspective; now dont get me wrong, i dont mean the zelda franchise, those games have remained fun to play, but the road nintendo has set itself on is just horrible. i say they give up now, and do what atari and sega did. stick to making games for the companies that are still relevant and keep up-ing the ante. i say that if steam does indeed develop their own system, nintendo should sign over and develop games for them; i can see steam being among the new top 3

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@Juja - April 27, 2012, 2:15 p.m.

Haha, you guys are funny. This reminds me of all the stuff people would say in 2005. People talking about how Nintendo should just give up and that the Wii and DS are the crazy ideas that will finally put Nintendo out of business, but then Wii and DS ended up being Nintendo's best selling console and portable ever. While I don't think the 3DS and WiiU can reach the levels of success that DS and Wii did, they'll probably do well enough for Nintendo. As of right now, the 3DS basically is the whole video game market in Japan; just check the media create weekly sales on Neogaf. It remains to see how WiiU will do, but that really depends on what games they have. Having an enhanced Dragon Quest X at launch for WiiU will certainly help in Japan.

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@Giogiogio4 - April 27, 2012, 6:43 p.m.

Juja said

Haha, you guys are funny. This reminds me of all the stuff people would say in 2005. People talking about how Nintendo should just give up and that the Wii and DS are the crazy ideas that will finally put Nintendo out of business, but then Wii and DS ended up being Nintendo's best selling console and portable ever. While I don't think the 3DS and WiiU can reach the levels of success that DS and Wii did, they'll probably do well enough for Nintendo. As of right now, the 3DS basically is the whole video game market in Japan; just check the media create weekly sales on Neogaf. It remains to see how WiiU will do, but that really depends on what games they have. Having an enhanced Dragon Quest X at launch for WiiU will certainly help in Japan.

Nintendo's only strength right now is to market to children. The 3DS did Horrible at launch and Nintendo's poor planning had the system without any real games for 6+Months. And Sadly the only thing to save that Handheld was a rehash of a Zelda Game. Japan in the gaming world is nothing more then a sad shell of it's former self.

The price drop and every little kid wanting one at Christmas is what saved it. Nintendo has this way of Marketing to people who have no clue about gaming or still poop their pants. Large sell numbers don't dictate quality. The Iphone and Ipad sell more then the xbox and ps3, Does that make them better gaming systems like every says?

Twilight and Justin bieber sell more then LOTR and FF OSTs but does that make them better?

I will go further and Point out that Nintendo does realize this with their attempts to "win back the core gamer" with putting "HD" into the Wii U. They also are shooting Ads out targeting older teens/20's making the 3Ds look like the Fun In thing to do with friends.

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@Jacob31593 - April 27, 2012, 9:25 p.m.

Giogiogio4 said

Japan in the gaming world is nothing more then a sad shell of it's former self.

true

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_gaming_in_Japan#Decline

Giogiogio4 said

The Iphone and Ipad sell more then the xbox and ps3, Does that make them better gaming systems like every says?

these devices are largely different

the first two arent even specifically designed for gaming and have many other functions, the target demographic for these two devices is much larger

Giogiogio4 said

Twilight and Justin bieber sell more then LOTR and FF OSTs but does that make them better?

again, these products are aimed at completely different audiences, the world happens to be popping out more little girls than it is nerdy white men

who are you to say which is better, you are only one man

leave it up to the market champ

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@Juja - April 28, 2012, 2:13 a.m.

Heh, you seem very upset Giogio. Anyway, I do agree that Nintendo botched the 3DS launch. I don't think it was really Ocarina of Time that helped turned things around, though. It's a damn fine game, but it was really the price drop, Mario Kart, and Mario 3D Land (and Monster Hunter in Japan). We'll see how things go when they release New Super Mario Bros. 2. 2D Mario games always sell really well.

Anyway, as long as they keep putting games that I want on Nintendo systems, I'll keep getting them. Even if WiiU is behind compared to PS4 and X-Box3, it'll still be nice to have Nintendo games in HD.

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