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@mrdukuntogel  - Sept. 6, 2010, 7:09 a.m.

Hello I just joined this website few minutes ago.

Um .. I have some questions I wanna ask , but I think it's kinda rude to ask question without saying hi first.

so .. I guess , hi ?

@auriplane  - Sept. 14, 2010, 6:59 p.m.

Private lessons > class

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@hslesperance  - Sept. 14, 2010, 7:04 p.m.

My advice

Practice

I don't think you really need a teacher if all they are going to do is show you what is in the book. You can read it for yourself.(I've never had a guitar teacher, so I don't know exactly how helpful they are)

Practice!

Others might disagree, but I personally dissaprove of trying to learn songs from tab websites until you have a good background of guitar fundementals(learning basic chords and their structures/reading and playing notes on a staff/note durations). Too many people try to just pick up a guitar and play a song they like from a band or videogame without actually learning how to play guitar in the traditional sense. This is a major problem with tablature. While it is easy to read and pick up quickly with no musical history it is a poor substitute for learning guitar the "correct way".

Practice!!

Salem said you should quit; while you shouldn't do it immediately, after another year or so if you still feel like you haven't made any real progress, that may be a good idea. Not everyone has to learn guitar(it is an extremely popular instrument). Maybe guitar just isn't your thing. There are dozens of other instruments out there for you to learn. I tried learning harmonica once and it didn't go too well, but it was okay because guitar and piano came so naturally to me. You just have to experiment with other instruements until you find something you are good at. You can give up guitar, but don't give up your love for music!

P.S. - Practice!!!

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@mrdukuntogel  - Sept. 16, 2010, 5:31 a.m.

Practice !

Ok , practice.

But what's to practice , I , myself , still don't know what to practice , I've tried to reapply for guitar course. I've bought several books which contents are thrash , just guitar parts , basic chords and then local pop song lyrics with chords above them (yeah , several , they are sealed , didn't check before I bought it)

what should I do know , I don't know where to look ,what to see ..huhuhuhuhu *sob ;(

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@Ranulf  - Sept. 16, 2010, 5:43 a.m.

try doing what surreal says and see what happens, but just remember it will take time

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@RexLeRouge  - Sept. 16, 2010, 9:35 a.m.

mrdukuntogel said

I've bought several books which contents are thrash , just guitar parts , basic chords and then local pop song lyrics with chords above them

... that's actually what you have to learn <<

practice these pop song, sing on them (even badly, that don't matter). you have to practice these chords until you do them without thinking

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@auriplane  - Sept. 16, 2010, 11:08 a.m.

Learn what you find interesting.

If you think chords are boring, don't learn them just yet. You'll want to eventually, of course, but the key to learning successfully is to keep your interest high. If you DO want to play chords, then great! Learn those now!

What are you interested in? Electric guitar type solo stuff, where you play one note at a time? Chords and strumming, like folk? Or fingerstyle/classical type stuff? There's a lot of ways to play guitar, not just one way. Learn the way that interests you.

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@hslesperance  - Sept. 16, 2010, 12:06 p.m.

mrdukuntogel said

I've bought several books which contents are thrash , just guitar parts , basic chords and then local pop song lyrics with chords above them

If the books you have tried are no good I suggest using Alfred's Basic Guitar Method which can be found in local music stores or Amazon. It has a good pace and teaches all the different notes in first position, some basic chords, and simple techniques for beginner guitarists. Don't get the complete version; start out with book 1 and then if you liked that get books 2 and 3.

Does anyone else here know good beginner guitar books?

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@auriplane  - Sept. 16, 2010, 2:25 p.m.

Yeah, I'm a fan of these:

http://www.skepticalguitarist.com/skeptbooks/volume1.htm

http://www.skepticalguitarist.com/skeptbooks/volume2.htm

When I was little, I did the Mel Bay books. They're ok. For whatever reason though, going through them feels more like work than learning about something fun and interesting.

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@Maikoi92  - Sept. 16, 2010, 7:31 p.m.

Hmm, so I thought I'd put my 2 cents in here. (I am SO sorry for the long post, but you asked for it! XD)

I've been playing for about 3 years now and I've never had a teacher. I'm proud of what I can play these days, but of course still striving to get better :P

When I got my first guitar I tried to play some chords and failed HORRIBLY. I hated chords and it made me hate guitar, yeah, it really did... so I quit for like half a year, then summer 2007 I picked up my guitar again and started playing some easy fingerstyle tabs (like Breezy from Final Fantasy).

From then on I tried to find all the tabs I could of all songs I liked (mostly video game songs) and started playing them. Yes, playing them. Attempting to play one measure of a song, memorizing it, moving on to the next, memorizing that along with the first one, repeating the proces until I had learned the whole song.

Sounds boring? Well it wasn't for me XD

My playing was slow and bad at first (compared to now...), but I felt good being able to at least play those songs and got better at them every time I played.

Repeated this for a good 2 and a half years and what did I get along the way?

"Damn, sightreading is SO handy (when you're lazy like me, memorizing can be a pain...) and there's really nothing to it after some practice!"

-> I can now play any song within my current skill-level while reading the tab, sometimes only after multiple attempts, depends on the difficulty of the song.

"Wow, playing chords is just FUN and totally lets you bang away at your guitar! :D"

-> I started playing random chords, whatever sounded nice, and ended up playing chords for a friend of mine while she sang, or along with videos on youtube.

"Holy sh!, playing by ear isn't as hard as I thought when I first started out! O_o"

-> I started hearing melodies on my guitar while fooling around, melodies I knew. Then I figured out the melodies from my head, and I was just mind-smacked :) I also started arranging, sometimes with pre-arranged piano midi files, sometimes adding things from the song by ear, but starting from scratch is still a little intimidating...

"Scales?? Boring!"

Yes, I still haven't gotten to the point where I actually WANT to learn them, tedious job I tell ya ;(

However, I have been trying to compose stuff lately and you just hear it when notes fit and when they don't, so I suppose my ears know more about music than I do.

So what am I trying to say with this big wall of text here?

Play whatever you want to play. If you like to play fingerstyle video game music, play some easy songs and start there. If you want more musical knowledge? Go learn some chords, scales and all that scary stuff. (it seemed all scary to me at least, when I started out...). Your playing won't be perfect at first, it really won't. But after some months you can go back to that first song, play it again and think to yourself "What was so hard about this back then?" I tell ya, it feels damn great :P

Now I won't argue with people who encourage having some background in musical theory before just playing off tabs, because I can see how it will help. Personally, I was and still am too lazy to learn all the theory, I just want to play pretty musics :) You'll learn (and even WANT to learn) all that stuff once you decide to try out the arranging/playing by ear/composing path.

And what will you have by that time? Your fingers will know how to play, since you've played countless of tabs before, all the chords and scales will be a lot easier to play than when you first started out. Worrying about learning "wrong" finger positions? It doesn't really matter. By playing all those songs you like you'll be forced to learn better finger positions as the songs get harder. I sometimes laugh at myself when I play a song from memory that I learned years ago, cause I can spot finger positions that just make the song so much harder, while there are much easier ways.

Anyway, I'll stop my rant here, hope it was helpful for you in some way :)

P.S. check out my oldest<->newest videos on youtube, the oldest are from when I just started playing... they are quite bad, but I was happy and proud at the time.

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@mrdukuntogel  - Sept. 20, 2010, 2:31 p.m.

thanks for the replies , just had the chance to read them.

well it is a long post XD

But but .. that's basically what I'm doing until now. Playing the tabs that I like , etc2 (mostly lonlonjp version , lol because I can see the video example . too hard for me??)+ 3 years ??? Almost the same like me.

Maybe talent speaks , ;|

*checks youtube , ..wow o_O

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@Darkyle99  - Sept. 20, 2010, 4:13 p.m.

سلام عليك ياأخي الفنان!! :) مرحبا بيك في جيم تابس ، ممكن تتعلم الجيتار عن طريق الإنترنت ، السيد جستن عنده فيديوهات تعليمية لدا المجال لو تبغى...الرجاء الضغط على يو أر إل المكتوب تحت

http://www.justinguitar.com/

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@auriplane  - Sept. 20, 2010, 5:06 p.m.

s/guitar/bailey/

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